More Hedges’

Following my post a couple of days ago about the family of Henry Hedges, I have actively searched for them in the 1871 census.

Knowing that they were living at 2 Orcus Street in Marylebone in 1866 when Henry was born was a starting point. So first, I needed to know where Orcus Street was. Searching Multimap didn’t return any answers. Next, I tried searching online lists such as London Street name changes to see if the street had been renamed, again no Orcus Street.

My next approach was to find old London maps of the era. Motco is a website with  a database of maps and prints of London. On their website they have some maps with the indexes. One of these was Edward Stanford’s 1862 map of London and its suburbs. The online index only contains 5,000 names instead of the 18,000 in the full version on their CD, but importantly for me it contained Orcus Street, so I had finally confirmed when it existed. I may eventually get a copy of the CD as it may make life a lot easier in the future for London addresses.

I found a website, http://www.mappalondon.com, which had the same map available online. There was no index, so I just started area by area searching the map for Orcus Street. I eventually, after several hours, found it in the St. John’s Wood area. This allowed me to go back to Ancestry and browse the 1871 Census. I was able to select London for County, St Marylebone for Civil Parish and St John for Sub-registration District. I then worked my way through the descriptions of the registration districts until I found District 4:

‘The part of the Parish of Marylebone which is bounded on the North by North Street, on the East by Grove Road, on the South by Princess Street, on the West by Sailsbury Street including Grove Road (No 34 to No 42), Upper Capland Street (from Princess Street to North Street), Orcus Street, North Street (22 to 40), Salisbury Street (No 28 to 44), Princess Street, Lisson Grove No 1 to 19, Princess Mews all numbers (included)’

I didn’t find Lisson Grove, but it does also contain Little North Street. More importantly, on page 44 was 2 Orcus Street.

  • John Hedges, Head, Married, 58, Cabdriver, Berks White Waltham
  • Eliza Hedges, Wife, Married, 35, U K - unknown – note from Ian
  • Frederick Hedges, Unmarried, Son, 13, Shop Boy, Marylebone
  • Henry Hedges, Unmarried, Son, 14, Shop Boy, Marylebone
  • Amy Hedges, Unmarried, Daughter, 1, Marylebone
  • Ralp Hedges, Unmarried, Son, 3 months, Marylebone

Got him! Although the age is wrong, I know Henry was born at this address 4 years previously and as he follows 13 year old Frederick on the census, I am taking this as a recording error. The family is transcribed as Hedge on Ancestry for this Census, but I still don’t know why I never turned them up before.

So, not only have I found my great grandfather, I have found 3 siblings.

I searched the marriage records for John Hedges and Eliza Hardinge and found one record in the Oct-Nov-Dec quarter of 1866. There would have been no doubt as to the reason for marriage then as Henry was born in December. Here Ancestry came up trumps again as they have the London registers of marriage online. I was able to find John and Eliza’s marriage record and confirm they were married on 1st October 1866.

  • John Hedges, 52, Widower, Cabdriver, 2 Orcus Street, father – James Hedges, Farmer’s Man
  • Eliza Hardinge, 30, Spinster, 2 Orcus Street, father – Thomas Francis Hardinge, Corn Merchant

So this has now pushed me back another generation to James Hedges.

I had already found John Hedges, a cabman from White Waltham in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 censuses, but as he was married to Mary Ann, I had discounted him when I found it was Eliza I was looking for. I am now wondering if this was his first marriage.

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7 Responses to More Hedges’

  1. Caroline Simmill says:

    I am trying to locate a John Hedges believed to live around the area of North Barnet back in 1958. Thank you.

  2. Ian says:

    Hello Caroline,

    I’m sorry, I don’t know of any Hedges in that area.
    You could try posting on the Rootsweb Hedges-UK mailing list, http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/h/hedges.html#HEDGES-UK

    Regards,
    Ian

  3. jackie bescoby says:

    hi my names jackie , my grandmother and grandfather were , martha sofia hedges , and sydney william hedges, my great grand parents were fredrick and margeret hedges ,,, my grandfather sydney was killed in world war two and the whole family were from london are we any relation

  4. Ian says:

    Hello Jackie,
    I’m sorry, I don’t have any of those names in my tree at the moment, so I don’t believe we are related.
    You could try posting on the Rootsweb Hedges-UK mailing list, http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/h/hedges.html#HEDGES-UK
    If you can give some dates and locations, it might match with someone there.
    Regards,
    Ian

  5. Teresa Coffey says:

    I was looking up James Hedges (born when ?) who was father of Edwin Hedges. Edwin married Harriet Edwards in Marylebone in 1855. I have ordered their marriage cert today from the GRO. The information that i got from ancestry.uk states that they were all resident in marylebone in 1855. I was wondering if they are related to your Hedges in Marylebone.

    And if so would it be possible for me to login to your site to see your family tree of these Hedges.

    Regards

    Teresa

  6. Teresa Coffey says:

    Just to let you know that Edwin Hedges and harriet edwards would be my great great great grandparents.

  7. Ian says:

    Hi Teresa,
    Sorry for the delay, I was away on holiday.

    The James Hedges that I have in my tree is the father of John Hedges b. 1812
    I do have an Edwin Hedges, but he was born in about 1843 and his father was John; if my assumptions are correct this is from John’s first marriage.

    I have been struggling with tracing through this period and may have missed some, but I don’t have any links to your Hedges’ at the moment.

    You can look on my public data tree, (just the living person details removed) at http://familydb1.ijhedges.com/phpgedview/index.php?ctype=gedcom&ged=hedges_clean.ged no login required.

    Regards,

    Ian

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